Robert Felix
This broadcast segment addresses the urgent need for verifiable facts about climate and weather that have been unable to make their way in a cohesive, understandable way to the public.
The first of two parts, this show features Ice Age Now founder Bob Felix, the author of Not by Fire, But By Ice and Magnetic Reversals & Evolutionary Leaps. Bob has spent considerable time researching climate and weather, extinctions, magnetic reversals, and ice ages. His books present staggering evidence of global cooling that suggests an ice age could begin at any moment.
Joe D'Aleo
Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo and climatologist Dr. Tim Ball also join in to provide a broader perspective on climate and weather and explain what’s missing from the established climate dialogues. The information these men bring to bear will shake you to your very foundations!
A gross body of distortion and misinformation exists about the climate dangers we are truly facing. The truth is that very few of us understand climate and weather. Most of us have taken a blind faith approach to researching these subjects.
Dr. Tim Ball
Unfortunately, this will be to the great detriment of all of humanity. In order to adequately prepare for coming changes, we need a different framework to quickly and properly understand climate and weather. Get ready to learn things you have never known before about weather, climate, and the business of climate change!
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I was able to steam once on the hot potato climate discussion but when I went to the second climate discussion, it locked up when I tried to stream and now I can’t stream anything from you site. Any ideas to the cause?
Tom
One of the problems I have is that the alarmists say one thing is a fact and the sceptics say another. I am a layman and am very interested in so called climate change but don’t know what facts to believe are true.
Help me.
Remember the movie Jerry Maguire? “Help me so that I can help you”. Remember that line? I am still laughing about it. Don’t worry about taking sides or joining a camp. It is all a big trap to make sure that you don’t do your own inquiry. Don’t allow yourself to be pulled into the state of emergency. Hold your own counsel regarding ingesting all the publicly declared official statements about Global Warming & Climate Change. Try to stay calm. Don’t be afraid to ask what you need to ask and to review what you need to review.
What is important, at least in my view, is that you put Climate Change in a context that is clear and realistic and not get dragged into a feeding frenzy about it.
Right now, it is being placed into an emergency context, into a problem, into a perceived location of a stated problem. Firstly, don’t buy it. Sit with it. Contemplate it, but don’t drink it like
a new adrenalin drink. Find out if Climate Change is a cycle. Really dedicate yourself to finding out. Put it in a proper time-line and context. Find out all about the time-frames over history.
Find out what is being used to declare and affirm this stated emergency. Dedicate yourself to learning about Carbon Dioxide and try not to get pulled into a “tit for tat” on every point about Science. Find out why the sun is being totally omitted from the arena. Find out about many factors that are influencing Climate and Weather. Learn about the Deal and the Treaty. Find out about the details of that deal. Look at who is at the helm of this global deal and financing. Look at the way the urgency is being used to upset, divide, confuse and rip the public apart as if we are all going to die if this deal in Copenhagen doesn’t go through.
Be mindful what you digest in terms of stories about how we are killing the planet. Keep your own counsel. Listen to your own inner voice. With this place of poise, you will know what you need to know and have peace and dominion about it no matter what goes on in the world. Now is an important time for clear vision and poise.
The tragedy is that we become what we declare and ingest as a part of mass consciousness. If something is said over and over to the public, most of us are very often guilty of accepting it as a flat fact. We have to watch what we tell ourselves about the planet, about being sustainable and about what is really unfolding. Thank you for writing. I hope this helps.
To Ian:
From my own personal research, I’ve come up a sensible preliminary basis on which to judge the legitimacy of a source. It’s quite simple, actually, and it’s embodied by the following question:
“When confronted with a different opinion, do they offer coherent, rational answers to the questions given – or do they completely divert (or resort to slander)?”
My line of reasoning is that someone who understands the scientific basis of their perspective has the wherewithal to discuss it comfortably.
I’ve seen a startling number of climate alarmists reduce legitimate inquiry to the subject of ridicule. I fail to see how that falls into the scientific paradigm. The loudest and angriest voices are usually the least objective. (Honestly, it reminds me of Galileo’s oppression by the church.)
Not that either side is free from negativity, of course. But it seems there are many skeptical voices who are willing to discuss their perspectives and the science behind them openly and in public forums. This seems a sensible thing, as debate on ANY scientific topic should *always* be open. Unfortunately, the forums in which alarmists gather seem to be devoid of differing opinions. That simply shouldn’t be.
It will take some legwork to understand the actual science. I think one of the best things to do when you’re starting out is to try to find a counterbalance for the perspectives you come across. It will be easy to find alarmist viewpoints, but don’t assume that means they’re infallible.
It’s sad that this issue has been so skewed that people have come to confuse skepticism with ignorance, disrespect for Earth, or alignment with corporate interest. Rest assured that it doesn’t; scientists are *supposed* to be skeptical. It is NEVER wrong to question the official story and seek truth beyond politicization.
By the way, you may want to check out the second part of “A True Inquiry Into Climate & Weather” and the interview with Lord Monckton as well.
By the way, it’s interesting to note how alarmists have griped about folks like Bob Felix because he’s not a scientist – yet the loudest alarmists are ALSO not scientists (i.e. Al Gore and the vast majority of people working in the budding “carbon industry”), and that doesn’t seem to be an issue. What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander!
Hi Kim, I purchased “Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps” by Robert Felix and have to say it really is a mind opening experience. The interesting “after effect” is that other books such as “The Atlantic Blueprint” by Rand Flem-Ath & Colin Wilson where mention is made of unexplained phenomenons around the globe (for which they attempt a theoretical explanation), now, suddenly make perfect sense. I also checked out Roberts information on The Carolina Bays phenomenon and The Tunguska Event, and sure enough it adds up beautifully. It’s a good feeling to see things from an entirely new perspective. Thus I endorse what you say about him. The thing is if Robert Felix is correct then we should at least consider the consequences of what may well be a far worse situation than that proposed by “The Alarmists”. That timeless man in the background of those old black & white movies holding a sign reading “Repent, The End Is Nigh”, who has survived so many disasters, may well meet his end finally…lol !!!
The reason ‘they’ want to tax carbon, is to effectively gain the right to tax breathing itself.
Think about it – it’s so in your face, it doesn’t seem credible – but has anyone quantified how much CO2 HUMANS produce worldwide daily?
Why WOULDN’T that be on the table?
Did you ever investigate the theories of John Hamaker and Don Weaver? They agree with much of your data interpretation but come to rather different bottom line conclusions.
Regards,
Richard Pokorny
Hi Richard,
I have heard of his book but have not read it yet. As time permits, I will get his book and read it. Thank you for commenting.
Lady, you wouldn’t know a “Fact” if one came up and bit you on your fundament.
We can have NO FACTS until the be-all and end-all of an event is OVER! This is a FACT!
By then it is TOO LATE to do anything about your “FACT”! Err on the side of caution!!
All else is Theory!
Please go take a course in LOGIC!!
Mark, the best way to leave a comment is to engender understanding, receptivity, open dialogue and clarity.
I would like to invite you back to write a comment that is constructive & brings clarity to your point without putdowns, insults and attacks. I know that you can do this.
It is of huge interest to note that the study of Chaos came out of the study of climate.
One simply must give a look to Chaos, by James Gleick and consider the work of Edward Lorenz, a meteorologist. (Back in the 1960s.)
Lorenz had no agenda to prove; he was just a working meteorologist. He came across some things in climate that confused, then amazed him; and later other scientists.
This was the beginning of the “science” of Chaos Study.
Interesting that it was based on weather patterns — but that was just and accident. Still, its result has much to say about this current “debate”.
This is a fascinating discussion and I had to laugh. I am one who studied geology at a time when any mention of continental drift brought ridicule from renowned but closed minded scientists.
If I learned anything from this program, it is that one must have a working knowledge of many sciences in order to begin the understanding of global climate.
Let me say that I am a big fan of Dr. William Gray at Colorado State. It is criminal that He has seen his research grants all but dry up. Another example of a scientist knuckling under to the power of politics is that of a study by Heidi Steltzer, also at Colorado State. She is a researcher in the Natural Resource Ecology Laboratory and believes that desert drying caused by global warming and recreational land use was responsible for dust storms that colored the snow red in the San Juan Mountains of Colorado. There is no doubt that the fallout resulted in early snow melt last year but her conclusions are flawed. According to Dr. Lee Allison, State Geologist and Director of the Arizona Geological Survey, the dust storms were the result of high winds driving the outwash from flooding in the San Francisco Mountains of Arizona after excessive snows melted in 2008. She also failed to understand that the area of NE Arizona, where the dust storms originated, is an ancient lake bed that dates to before the creation of the Grand Canyon. That area has not and will never support the amount of plant growth that it would take to prevent dust storms. Dust storms on the Navajo Reservation were a way of life, long before coal fired power plants and automobile emissions became an issue. Ms. Steltzer’s erroneous conclusions are now being used by proponents of America’s Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009 (H.R. 1925) that would make nearly 9.4 million acres of the Colorado Plateau off limits to nearly all human activity, including mining and gas and oil production.
I sympathize with your guests and other researchers who have been ridiculed or lost funding only to have it be given to others who will spread the gospel of those with a financial or political agenda. I believe that the debate is far from over and no discipline should be shut out.
The first time I heard about global warming was in the mid-1990s. It was from a very liberal activist friend of mine. It didn’t make sense to me especially based on my education in natural sciences and my experience as a field soil scientist and mapping Pleistocene glacial features in Illinois. I would hope while in graduate school at Illinios teaching Earth science laboratories that I kept an open mind to new ideas and new thoughts in my field. So I made it my hobby/mission to read scientific papers, books, analysis and reports; as much of the subject and related issues that I reasonably could and still maintain my full time job and family. I have come to the same conclusion as all you have. I also read several historic accounts, Vikings in Greenland , Little Ice Age (Brian Fagan), Patrick Michaels “Global Warming every 1500 years”, and European history in the middle ages. Written history documents and supports significant temperature fluctuations during the little ice age.
I have come to two conclusions in the past few years about the public perception and the “alarmist” agenda. First, I work with professional people who up until recently I believed were very intelligent and open minded. I was wrong, within my group of archaeologists, wildlife biologists, hydrologists, and soils specialists; only one has the presence of mind to doubt the global warming agenda. Other co-workers are somewhat indignent when I express doubt, rolling eyes, laughing, and ignoring me. The second conclusion is that unless people like you, and many others with all your experience and presence continue to make public statements and present the facts I am afraid that the “alarmist” type may have their way. Our youngest daughter had to watch “The Inconvenient Truth” 3 times in school during the year it came out with absolutely no counter opinion. What I don’t understand is Why? What is the reason they would misrepresent data, falsify papers, and in some cases, hide the truth. I just don’t get it.
I’ve even offered to buy the school a copy of the “Great Global Warming Swindle”. Of course I was refused. The high school library doesn’t even have a copy of Michael Crighton’s “State of Fear”. Probably because it portrays the extreme environmentalists as the bad guys. But they do have all of Mr. Crighton’s other book’s.
I rarely ever write in blogs, but I enjoy ICECAP.US and Dr. Ball, Mr. D’Leo, and Mr. Felix have all in different ways contributed to my education. Thank you for having this forum.
John, thank you for your input and feedback. Don’t lose heart. Truth has a life of its own and cannot be suppressed forever. The question is how long will the deception be empowered to continue and how many people are willing to roll up their sleeves, put the politics aside and do their own due diligence without accepting the official story. We are all trained to accept official stories. It is part of our conditioning. It takes courage to be willing to look and ask yourself the questions and do your own investigation. One need not be a scientist to sort truth from fiction. Isn’t that beautiful?
Kim, thank you, as a grad student in Illinois in the late 70’s I was able to convey an understanding of basic earth science. I am hopeful that real science will triumph over cherry picking urban heat island weather stations, false tree ring research, and ignoring the sun, cosmic ray, milancovitch cycles and historic heating and cooling events.
A typical conversation with a wildlife biologist co-worker goes like this: I say I just don’t believe in the current portrayal of of climate change: She says: Don’t you care about the Polar Bears; I say; How did they survive the Medieval Warm Period? She says: I don’t know, I wasn’t there. Makes a face and walks away. Now she won’t talk to me and doesn’t acknowledge I am in the room at meetings. Now this is an educated scientist; I know this will be an uphill battle! Keep up the good work of making the facts public. No spin, just the facts.
Seem like the people that are in favor of global population control have found a way to lower the population by getting everyone ready for global warming when global cooling is on the way. Starvation on a massive scale is on the way.
You lying bunch of paid shills. You KNOW the average person listening to this pile of lies will buy into it. Everyone in this interview know exactly what they’re doing with this obvious psy-op.
Weather has NOTHING to do with heating and cooling of oceans. Its created by ELECTRICAL (not heat) output of our sun, period. If the population (doubtful) ever find out what REALLY happened to this planet ONLY 3600-3700 years ago and how our weather really works your going to have an angry mob on your hands and thats the REASON for this interview, buying themselves time.
After listening to the clown shills in this interview now go study here:
http://www.jmccsci.com/
Lost track of how many times these liars used the term “THEY”. For a group of educated people you must have at least a tiny clue who EXACTLY “THEY” are?? Won’t go anywhere near that one obviously. Answer is clear. No way this smart group of people are THAT ignorant. Paid liars period.
Start here:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/
Now go to this site and purchase the DVD :Global Warming what the Government isn’t telling you”
http://www.thelibertyman.com/
Motivation for why the world is run the way it is? Simple; strongest human instinct. SURVIVAL.
People at the top of the illusionary monetary chain are trying to survive something THEY CANNOT CONTROL. They’re secondary goal is massive DEPOPULATION.
NOW you have the entire picture and you better get it FAST.
You better start preparing folks:
– move to a min. of 500 ft. above sea level
– move away from ocean and great lakes coastlines
– get away from population centers
– arm yourself
– learn every outdoor survival skill you can as if you were knocked back into the stone ages
Now watch the paid shill posts after this one.
To: Artie Fufkin,
There is a way to comment that expresses your disagreement without insulting and violating anyone. You need to read and honor our comment policy if you expect to participate in this realm of discourse.
Your discourse is that of someone who desires no dialogue, who sets up conflicted content with no possibility of discussion or critical thinking. You are narrowing the field of conversation and critical thinking.
Your comments have no constructive feedback. You do not even comment on the actual content of this segment. You make up your own distorted story about the content of this segment, which has nothing to do with what was communicated by the guests.
To make matters worse, you purposefully insert doubt, distrust and conflict into the mix and comment that if anyone responds to your negative post that they are “a paid shill”. This is nothing more than your own unwillingness or inability to professionally present your views.
By the way….
1. Robert Felix has done massive research about climate and has written two books that are worthy of the public’s attention that specifically deal with Ice Ages. Read them both before you accuse him of being a paid shill and a liar.
2. Joe Daleo of http://www.icecap.us, Anthony Watts, and EM Smith have just published an important new paper called, Surface Temperature Records, A Policy Driven Deception? You may find this interesting.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/policy_driven_deception.html
3. Tim Ball has been a climatologist for over 30 years who understands how to convey the science and its formation to the public in a way that gives people a whole-systems perspective by laying out the context in which science functions and has evolved on both positive and negative levels.
Come back and comment when you are willing to communicate in a way that invites inquiry, respect, mutuality and true discovery.
Thanks I wrote an article about climate change ande sun cycles in 2003, “Don`t let the sun catch you crying” and in 2006 “Solar sacrifices part one and two”. Unfortunately the Public went with Al Gore and Mankind became the enemy to the environment. It`s the Sun Cycles!!!
Peter Knofler, I have purposly lived on the Tropic of Cancer since 1968, my skin became my gauge for suns rays. I moved to Cancun Maya Land of the Sun, and there I learned that the vibratory rate of a single ray of sunlight has gone up VERY high, I learned to recognize this vibratory change through my skin. Now over 40 years in the Sun, I know more, and respect the SUN. THankyou fellow sun people.
Hello again last comment The USA-CANADA-Australia and most of Europe is suffering from the Corporate dictatoreship. MKT-Illusion and no substance. The public is guided by Special effects, emotional displays and good old FEAR, every pharmacutical-medical advertising, brings on fear. 1905,” there is a lot of money to be made from sick people” David Rockefeller. Like the 2YK which was a test of public fear, Xmas bomber to install body scanners, weather changes information is hidden and that fear makes money for Corporate World economics. Make humanity guilty and tax the guilt creat a problem that may not be there (2YK) but make money off the solution, all illusion no subdtance. AS for the future The Sun spot cycles will heat the core of the earth, under ocean volcanoes errupt, by the thousands heat the ocean and create weather havoc.During Sunspot activity Suns vibratory rate shoots up and effects mankinds Pineal gland which sets off a binging of hormonal activity. Suicide will go up violence also, women and child abuse goes up and people in general will feel a sense of anxiety and general unease, not explainable by the medical radar. More medication, more prison population and military will be turned on its own citizens. Get Real! Solution vegetarian food for distemper, exercise for more oxygen, meditation, for anger and emotional dysfunction. Addiction threapy without mediication, back to nature programs, consciousness therapy. Also prevention therapy to prepare for the long run not the short fragmented focus on life. The truth does set you free, free from yourself, “success through failure” the ability to respond, “the mind talks, but the body Knows” if you cant live in your body, wear can You live. Climate change starts with You. Thank You.
Artie Fufkin is too much of a wuss to even use his real name. (And, apparently, a Spinal Tap fan.)
Hi Kim!
I just want to thank you so much for your recent podcast called “A True Inquiry Into Climate & Weather (1/2): A Hot Potato”, it was the most informative and honest discussion on Climate change I have heard to date.
It ought to be compulsory listening for all of us, since the debate in the media is so biased. It is clear to me that there is an agenda at play, when the governments, media, scientists and big corporations all are pushing this green agenda, primarily using Climate change as their weapon against us.
It is not about facts or true concern for the environment that this agenda is rolled out, it is about control, power and money, in fact, it is the perfect desguise for totalitarianism!! Just like charity is the perfect cover for evil deeds. These people are smart, they have hijacked the environmental movement for their own purposes. Anyway, I will spread the word to my friends here in Sweden and send them a link to your podcast.
Once again, I appreciate your efforts to inform us out here.
Kind Regards
DEAR KIM,
although i know not much about the scientific aspects of climate change but on the basis of my interest in such topics i 100% am in this theory that is is not just a human induced global warming, it is actually a cycle that is due and will definitely reoccur no matter what we do. it is the earth’s system that must be helpful in her existence. 500 years ago there were no such greenhouse emitting industries and so it was not during the onset of the last glaciation still there were dramatic climatic changes. what really worries me is that we must be changing something nside the earth because the fossil fuel which may be leaking into the earth’s core to keep the magma hot and thus keep earth going has decreased because we are exploiting that resource, now that must affect the system otherwise i am in the favour that earth will experience another ice age in the time to come.
It is so refreshing to hear the opinions from climate experts who have been marginalized by the Official Version (Al Gore sponsors). It could be a bit of a mind blower to anyone who bought into the Official Story like I did.
What a bold and brave effort by everyone. I learned so much!
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I am so grateful that the commentary was straight forward and put into words the layman could understand. I love the following comment that Kim made. “One need not be a scientist to sort truth from fiction. Isn’t that beautiful?
Do planets that do not rotate have a magnetic field? Does the moon have a magnetic field? Do we know if the inner layers of the earth are in a circular motion? Would appreciate an answer to these three questions. Thank you.
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It’s obvious that the governments of the world especially the US dont want people to be aware of these facts and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that the earth is on a freezing/heating cycle and we are just right at the end of the heating cycle soon to become extinct due to the next ice age. I think its great and I am not afraid to die and am so ready to get off this planet filled with evil, rich controling select few that have taken advantage of the majority of the resources for their own enrichment while so many millions have suffered and died due to their selfishness and immoral/evil behavior. God Bless You All! See you on the other side…
I do not believe you will find “the other side” as this is just more brainwashing of the public. If people believe they will live in utopia when they are dead they will have no reason to live except for a fear of the pain of dying. If people really believe there is another better side, why not commit suicide now, oh I guess there is some “ancient scriptures” that says you can’t go to heaven if you go sideways. And don’t forget the bible was written by people that didn’t know of the Milankovich cycle or that the earth circles the sun. As a matter of note according to the National Academy of Science study done each year in the USA, over 50% of US citizens today, still don’t know the earth orbits the sun and takes 1 year to do it. They also don’t believe in the theory of evolution and claim it is “just a theory”. This is quite funny as I guess they don’t believe in the “theory” of relativity,ie. gravity either. So if gravity is JUST a “theory”, then why not jump out of a 100 story building and test their hypothosis that “theories” are bunk.
Kevin James Dalton …I agree completely with your comment. I too, am so very ‘over’ my species and ready to just ‘leave’. There are many people like us, but too few, willing to speak their mind. Good luck and see you too Kevin, on the other side! 🙂
There was a page on the NOAA site where a scientist was claiming the Milankovich cycles were used to date ocean sediments and then the sediments used to confirm the M cycles. That disappeared during the Bush admin. No mention of noctilucent clouds by your “experts,” first surface mirror acting ice crystals higher than any other clouds growing steadily since the start of the industrial revolution. No mention that Milankovich also blamed the gravitational influence of stars which is tantamount to astrology. No mention of the Devil’s Hole Nevada study of oxygen isotopes captured in cave wall crystals designed to illicit the most accurate timing of the ice ages placing the start of glaciation at peaks of carbon dioxide content. No mention by your experts of the finding that the shifting weight of bodies of water on the crust appear to be why volcanism and earthquakes are on the rise. Me thinks green house gases lead to ice ages and the experiments of John Hamaker show the remineralization of soils from glacier ground rocks cause plants to grow profusely. The fossil fuel robber barrons of the world like Robert Felix’ theory. It absolves them and us from getting smart.
Hi Kim, this was a great interview you had great questions. Thank you.
Loved the broadcast!
I have to say that as a watcher of weather patterns I have noticed a CHANGE. In Florida, we are experiencing record COLD temps. For the past three years we have changed from sunny days everyday to days and sometimes weeks without the sun. We have gone from monsoons in the summer to record lows in rainfall. Clearly our weather is changing; quickly and dramatically.
I doubt the validity of global warming. A mini ice age makes more sense to me.
As a side note, as I was listening to the broadcast it occurred to me that if your guests are even 20% accurate and we are headed for an ice age in the VERY NEAR future you can presume that the areas on the planet that have warm climates will be the places to live.
If you dabble in conspiracy theories (like I do) it almost seems like the Gulf Oil spill could have been a planned event to move people out of the region so that the Global Elite can move here when it became necessary. Thankfully, the crisis has resolved.
I wonder…..
There has been a demise of all human cultures [The rise and fall of —] since humanity’s beginnings.
‘Weather’ is just one of the many ‘cyclical causes’ that thwarts our pursuit of happiness.
What about weather manipulation…prince charles predicted climatic disasters in may 2008 within 18 months..it seems he was spot on but how did he know?
Lets face it if they can manipulate the track of hurricaine Erin on 911 then they can do alot more.Research dr judy wood’s website
masonfreeparty,
Have you checked out Kim’s interview with Judy Wood? If not, you can click here to listen.
Hi, Kim,
I see that you have had a conversation with a Jim Witt regarding weather forecasting re the sun’s and moon’s effects.
Have you considered contacting Piers Corben as well. He is the English solar physicist who does the same thing.
Keep up the good work.
Best regards.
G.S. Williams
Yes! I have begun that contact and we have not scheduled the interview yet.
Keep checking the upcoming section and if we get it scheduled, it will be there.
Thank you for listening and commenting.
It’s actually Piers Corbyn, the brother of the leader of the labour party in UK
Great Interview with very credible guests. I didn’t detect any errors with their facts. A model is just someone’s algorithm.
These experts are bringing you the truth, but does not connect the dots to other issues that are part of the big picture. ALWAYS A CYCLE. There is nothing new under the sun. Humanity is now however, facing more than just space weather bringing cyclical celestial events. Corrupted science does not account for the dust coming from space as we are in an energetic region of the galaxy, crossing the glaxtic plane. We have been for 15 years and will be for another 15 years. That dust is increasing the rain fall, also adding to the coming ice age. We are in the last age of human dominance, and may only delay the effects of the adversary that rules as king of the air. Keep in mind, there is an ice age on the move, but the fire will also come as well, due to the corruption of man’s leadership.
The return of the death star known in intelligence circles as Nemisis, is the reason the shadow government is bringing many serious corruptions for the public to deal with, in order for them to go into their DUMB locations unhindered, that in reality will become their graves due to earthquakes, while they believe they will survive & return to rebuild their New World DSisOrder.
The deliberate use of falty preventers as depicted by the movie with Steven Segal was timed by BP in order to prepare for the deliberate destruction of the heart of the worlds weather systems. The collapse of the gulf loop current, to further increase destruction of northern europe, and to initiate the split of the US continent. Space weather brings earthquakes, and it’s expected a particular dead volcano in the pacific, will be sheered off & cause a tsunami which ,followed by other quakes, will collapse the salt dome of the gulf, following the hydrofracking & weakened new Madrid Falt line. Naturally this will also kill the huge populations on ocean front land up to 300 miles inland, depending on elevation. There will be a 50 mile wide river and a port at the well named Salt Lake City Utah. One great source for understanding the causes is to learn from Professor James McCanney. The speakers here would know of him.
The other issue to discover aside from the multiple diciplines to study, is the return of ancient global energetics. Today this uses geoenergetics as it is to the earth systems, bioenergetics as it is to all animal & human life, and psycoenergetics, as it pertains to the mind and emotion. In the last age this was effected by the global pyramid structures, which did much more than provide energy to live on. The replacement of this system today is commonly known to the initiated as HAARP and the entire electronic cage. One can further study this technology being used for interaction with these celestial events to increase their severity & the reasons behind it, which forces the public to beg for protection, just not from God. See http://www.authorthat.wordpress.com The Blogathon Philabuster. The witness to evil must not remain silent.
Besides the solar variations we are facing, we have come to the average end of an interglacial period. Which generally means we are in the sights of the next ice age. What the “global warmers” seemingly don’t get is that it is the combination of rapidly cooling global air temperatures AND relatively warm sea temperatures, especially in the Arctic, that produce the initial kick off capability to create massive continental ice shield glaciers. Oceanic waters absorb and give off heat more slowly than the atmosphere. They form a thermal storage capability of massive nature. That heat generally comes off with accompanying water vapor. For those who watched the seemingly incredible lake effect snows that hammered Buffalo, NY and the areas south of it earlier this fall (Nov 2014), this principle should be clear. Cold winds, blowing over (relatively) warm waters = massive snowfall capabilities.
Until the Arctic Ocean enters the Autumn/Winter with substantial open water, allowing it to kick off mega snows on a semi-continental scale, the presence of the Arctic ice cap will limit the amount of available moisture to make the initial massive snow layer necessary for continental glaciation to begin. It literally takes a snow pack deep enough, on a massive scale, to survive the summer season for this to happen. Once that first snowbound summer occurs, it’s “off to the races” for continental glaciation. The next winter’s snow falls on a layer of crystalline ice called firn. Once two solid years of compacted firn layers are in place, “going back” becomes very difficult. The increased albedo from the new continental scale ice layer assists in precluding soil warming, except (generally) on south facing slopes. But even with a layer of slushy summer icepack on much of the tundra soils of the arctic, for the first few years, the Arctic Ocean will remain open by the end of summer, due to the underlying warmer waters. Which means that the cold of fall and winter will once again be able to deposit significant amounts of snow. And thus Ice Ages begin.
For those who might suggest that the Arctic gets lots of snow, actually, it doesn’t. 100 inches of snow only equals about 10 inches of rain, which qualifies it as a desert. Using Alaska as an example, the northern side of the Seward Peninsula gets about 10 inches of rain equivalent; the North Slope gets about 4 inches of rain equivalent. So open water in the Arctic Ocean at the end of summer may not be the “trigger” of the ice age, but it certainly is the “firing pin.”
I’ve followed the current climate debates closely since Master’s degree work in the early 1990s, Interestingly, few North American and European researchers have made much, if any. use of China’s massive climate records. They have over 500 years of unbroken, continent-wide climate=related government data (albeit with some lacunae due to local library destruction, etc.) Chinese climate researchers have made good use of this data, however. I always wanted to link it with known ENSO variations, build a dendroclimatological link, and then use the Chinese data as a lens to more accurately read North American dendroclimatological records going much further back than the Chinese data set. Chinese drought / flooding patterns are certainly heavily influenced by South China Seas and Western Pacific ocean surface temperatures, and as those are the opposite side of ENSO, I figured the science would be useful. Never happened, as I chased a different dragon, but I post this here in hopes that the idea may spark someone to chase it down.
Robert Felix remains a scientist in the true sense of the word, and I have long applauded his work in crying the truth in the wilderness. For those who may not have read it, the 2003 Abrupt Climate Change report produced for the DoD is an eyeopener: http://www.climate.org/PDF/clim_change_scenario.pdf The researchers suggest that global warming will affect, possibly in the near future, the thermohaline circulation, resulting in a rapid descent into a colder period. Recall that this report was released almost 12 years ago, before there was a significant body of credible evidence that we had already entered a period of solar cooling. Here in a nutshell are the conclusions:
“In this report, as an alternative to the scenarios of gradual climatic warming that are
so common, we outline an abrupt climate change scenario patterned after the 100-
year event that occurred about 8,200 years ago. This abrupt change scenario is
characterized by the following conditions:
• Annual average temperatures drop by up to 5 degrees Fahrenheit over Asia
and North America and 6 degrees Fahrenheit in northern Europe
• Annual average temperatures increase by up to 4 degrees Fahrenheit in key
areas throughout Australia, South America, and southern Africa.
• Drought persists for most of the decade in critical agricultural regions and in
the water resource regions for major population centers in Europe and eastern
North America.
• Winter storms and winds intensify, amplifying the impacts of the changes.
Western Europe and the North Pacific experience enhanced winds.”
So, not so rosy. The good thing about all this discussion is that we are going to discover what happens to us, when it happens to us. Of course, the most recent 2014 DoD climate report is all warming, all the time. http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release.aspx?ReleaseID=16976 But that is probably politically driven, given the current localized climate in Washington, DC!
Bundle up, kiddies! It’s getting chilly out there! Time to throw another log on the fire and read seed catalogs and think about next year’s garden. Incidentally, if climate zones move back south again, Johnny’s Selected Seeds (johnnyseeds.com) is my choice for northern adapted seeds. If you are betting on warming, check out Southern Exposure Seed Exchange (southernexposure.com) for varieties best adapted to the mid-Atlantic, South and Appalachia.
May God bless us, one and all…